California gets no tools to seriously mitigate this. Unfortunately the state of the CV rework makes AA unrewarding and frankly useless at times no matter how much of it you have. Though they would have to actually work on balancing CV's (a lot of ordnance damage needs to come down, AA needs to be fixed/balanced, plane regen/hanger needs to be worked on, etc) and bring back odd tiers before we get to that. I have felt these three combined weaknesses acutely with Florida. I don't feel that they're enough to damn the ship, but they are very obviously weaknesses. Unlike the higher tiered sniper-battleships, Florida finds herself more often in claustrophobic maps where she cannot rely on simply out-ranging targets. She's asked to tank a lot more more than say, Champagne. Even when she does appear on larger maps, this comes with the threat of higher-tiered opponents and more overmatching guns so it's catch 22. Knowing which opponents you can face tank and which you can't are important. But so very often I was forced to show my cute butt and kite away when the pressure was on. Florida's not-good(ish) forward fire angles meant that firing all three turrets forward was just asking to have shells rammed into her stepped citadel. It was far safer to fight, firing over her shoulder with her forward turrets slinging shells to her rear., Being far more limited in what aggressive plays this ship can make hurts her carrying ability. Turning to fight will often just get you killed. It limits what decisive actions she can take. It's hard to be heroic if you're constantly forced to follow Sir Robin's playbook.. +4% increased dispersion of enemy shells. Those are my sentiments to the silent warriors. They are truly the ones that really profoundly had (has) an effect to the mass public, unlike the affect the Whiskey Golf tries to show in their own efforts. Usually it comes down to the captain to decide if a ship is worth it or not. If given the opportunity to fire nothing but AP, Florida does really well. Frankly, this is only going to happen if your opponents are idiots. You have to remain flexible with her ammunition choices. Keep the Expert Loader skill in mind. It's very handy for this ship if you're going to build a dedicated Florida captain. The average cost of living in Florida is about The victory snapped a three-game losing streak and was only the third in February following the upset of the Tennessee Volunteers to open the month along with a The number of murders surged by nearly 30%, from 16,669 in 2019 to 21,570 in 2020, the largest year-over-year increase on record. All things told, it's not bad for helping keep shells out (especially when angling). And another premium ship to skip, even Zoup has a different opinion. The net effect is that though California has a 20.5 knot top speed, she's usually flirting with much less -- as little as 15.3 knots at 4/4 engine settings. They could have made California powerful. Is California worth it? Build for survivability and fire resistance. California has higher sigma (1.9 vs 1.8). Summary so far: California's concealment is meant to be her saving grace. In a way I'm glad there's not a ship named after my home state they can give this sort of treatment to. Thanks for your time on the review @LittleWhiteMouse. The 0.1 sigma difference is imperceptible in game play -- you couldn't tell the difference if you tried. WebCalifornia is more of a dry heat while Florida is more humid It's generally sunny more so in california than in florida. Such wasted potential. Base/Minimum Surface Detection: 13.86km / 12.1kmBase/Minimum Air Detection Range: 10.08km/9.07kmDetection Range When Firing in Smoke: 12.01kmMaximum Firing Range: Between 18.62km and 25.92km, Flordia's concealment values are pretty darned good. She doesn't quite get into that magical sub-12km surface detection range which is quite impressive for a battleship, but at least she gets close. Given her preferred engagement distance, it's pretty easy for this ship to drop off from detection range in typical encounters -- especially given her long reload. If she had a bit more grunt in her engines, controlling the engagement through use of her stealth would be a lot more feasible, but her 27 knot top speed just isn't enough to kite away from all of the battleships she faces, to say nothing of cruisers and destroyers.. I have 2 battles in it in randoms but only because I've been playing a lot of ranked plus grinding out the Minnesota. Florida man, Florida man Guess the tune. One of those was a T8 battle and one a T9.. Her 356mm AP rounds overmatch a maximum of 24mm worth of plate and there's a whole lot of structural steel within her matchmaking that's 25mm or thicker. When Florida was first announced, I thought she would immediately obsolete California. I tore California a new one a few months ago for being not worth the asking price. While I do feel that Florida is a superior vessel to California, I don't feel that she's worth it either. Frankly, you're better served picking up Arizona at tier VI or even Alabama at tier VIII instead of Florida. Let me stress this: I don't think Alabama is worth the asking price either, but I would definitely recommend her over Florida. She's more reliable, if dull. The best bang for your buck for American premium battleships is Massachusetts and she's been one of the best premiums you can buy if you're shopping for one. Her primacy isn't challenged by Florida in the least. With Black Friday a little over a month away, if you're in the market for Massachusetts, then you might want to wait a month and grab it when her Black version goes back on sale if you like the cosmetic difference. I don't mean to try and sell you on other ships, my point is simply that there are a lot better choices for your time and money than investing in Florida. How likely your shells are to do damage if they do hit. Tier for tier, Arizona is the better protected ship with her armour and hit points meaning more at tier VI than California's at tier VII. Live stream California vs. Florida State on fuboTV: Start with a 7-day free trial! Florida seems to have the speed to get to this position. Let's start with Florida's secondaries, because they're kind of neat in a pointless, fun bit of trivia kind of way. I give this rating 5 out of 10. Coz no mehbote to gudbote rating, except angry anime girl gif This exaggerated manoeuvre bleeds speed (to say nothing of changing her heading and possibly navigating away from battle), further slowing her already ponderous pace. WebThe water temperatures differ in California vs Florida beaches because of the different climates. Arizona has better upper-hull armour. For me, Lyon is the best BB for Narai, Ashitaka being the second, due to their speed and DPM. Despite constant suggestions to give her improved accuracy and/or range on her secondaries, Wargaming wouldn't budge on keeping them standardized. Flak Bursts: 5 explosions for 1400 damage per blast at 3.5km to 5.8km.Long Ranged (up to 5.8km): 157.5dps at 75% accuracyMedium Ranged (up to 4.0km): 269.5dps at 75% accuracyShort Ranged (up to 2.0km): 318.5dps at 70% accuracy. And I mean that in the same way I tell my significant other that "it's fine" when things are clearly not. It's all of the little things which add up to a bad experience for me. If you asked me to point at the one thing that bugs me the most about them, I'd probably tell you it's the 4/s gun traverse, which seems stupid to complain about given all of the other issues. However, I think that this quibble illustrates my beef with Florida's gunnery as a whole. Her slow turret traverse is just that "one more thing" that feels off about this ship. No matter her advantages, there's always a big ol' butt attached. Thanks (again) for this review. Simply tragic. They're not thick enough to keep battleship caliber shells out. The final difference is cost. QueensFGCU. I'm getting a lot of mileage out of this graphic. This speaks a lot to how badly the skill system needs to be reworked given how optimized skill choices have become, That would be great - but they'd have to actually fix the gameplay and change some ships to actually get us to a point there isn't just one optimized loadout.. The most dangerous shots come from medium to long range where shells have a bit of drop going for them to strike beneath the waterline and angle towards the citadel. If you had to choose one, Arizona is the better purchase, hands down. LittleWhiteMouse, July 2, 2020 in General Game Discussion. Bet now! For me, Ship Comrade allowed me to greatly increase the quality of my reviews. This long format, like you're seeing here with Florida, was facilitated entirely by having my content written for Ship Comrade. Critter8 encouraged CCs like myself and @Aetam to host our content on his site. As you can imagine, writing for a web-page is much more forgiving than writing for a forum post -- it didn't have to all be written in a single sitting, for example. In going over Ship Comrade's archives, it was a treat to watch how my reviews grew in size and ambition. My early reviews were usually written in an afternoon and seldom held more than four or five jpegs. Florida's review has nearly thirty and has been written over the course of a week.. This is a top-down view of California with her 343mm belt highlighted in red. To be fair, I might actually like it based on the gun performance, but I have no real use for a squishy BB. California will cost you around 10,000 for a worse experience, tier for tier. The reload time is my biggest issue.. Compared to New Mexico, California has increased range (19.9km vs 16.1km) and better sigma (1.9 vs 1.5) but again that horrible deficit in fire arcs (102 broadside vs 109). The Napoli is based on a preliminary design from Ansaldo for the Soviet Project 22 Heavy cruiser. However, she has enough problems already without considering CV strikes. Main Battery: Twelve 356mm/50 guns in 4x3 turrets in an A-B-X-Y superfiring configuration.Secondary Battery: Sixteen 127mm/38 guns in 8x2 turrets in superfiring pairs on either side of the ship facing fore and aft. Oh no you didn't! LittleWhiteMouse, October 12, 2020 in General Game Discussion. For randoms it looks like she is a really tough ship to play, but what about Operations like Narai?, I give this rating 5 out of 10. It could be worse, I suppose. Florida's artificial fragility instead comes from three sources. The most influential of these is her citadel placement and geometry. Any battleship with her citadel sitting high over the waterline and abutting against the ship's exterior has a big ol' weakspot that's pretty easy to exploit. That, in of itself, isn't enough to damn a ship. For example, Soviet battleships all share this weak point, but many (if not most) of them are considered super-tanky. Therein lies Florida's second weakness: she lacks any form of extended armour to assist with shattering HE shells and ricocheting incoming AP rounds. While her amidships deck is a respectable 37mm, her butt, snoot and upper hull are all highly vulnerable. 25mm and 26mm armour are easily over-matched by the oh-so commonplace 380mm+ AP shells found at this tier. This armour similarly doesn't hold up against HE spam from cruisers and some destroyers. Thus Florida is much more limited when it comes to tanking incoming rounds. She can bounce 356mm armed battleships throwing AP in her face for days but angle improperly or test your luck against larger caliber guns and she goes down in a hurry. But seeing how she was being released reminded me of why I write these reviews in the first place: To protect other players from making bad purchases. Overall, the ships are very comparable in terms of their protection and durability. California's AP penetration is okay. TV: ESPN ( Watch and stream the game live on ESPN+) RADIO: Tar Heel Sports Network. Now, Republican Florida Gov. Wow. To the best of my knowledge, the statistics discussed in this article are current as of patch 0.9.5.1. ATHENS Georgia basketball battled back but could not overcome its 12-point second half deficit to Florida. Alec Lasley. Much of Floridas coastline has Caribbean-like water in terms of warmth and undisturbed turquoise waters. I want to like the Florida but she may very well be out of my skill range which happens. They have averaged 3.5 goals per game (35 total) over that stretch. This is why I prefer Lyon over them, but Gnei/Sharn are quite good for Narai too. I think she's too soft to be good enough to be a true BB and that makes it doubly hard when paired at top or mid tier where you are expected to be the beater for your team. Furthermore, that big 26mm area is just begging to receive hits from HE spam. Jones Angell, play-by California can give you some reasonable games. After an impressive week that saw the Tigers go 3-1-1, Auburn begins a new week by welcoming in Florida A&M to Plainsman Park for a Personally, I find the Florida to be a better ship than the California. I wouldn't be a Community Contributor (CC) if it weren't for Critter8. I'm not sure the WGNA CC-program would have even existed if it weren't for him. Back in 2015, before there was a Community Contributor program, content creators like myself worked unsupported by Wargaming in any capacity. The predecessor to the NA-CC program was Club Wargaming which promised the world and delivered nothing but a booger-green title on the forums. Club Wargaming included dozens of content creators which had sprung up during Closed and Open Beta, including some big names like @PhlyDaily. All of us were paying out of pocket to produce content or having to rely on donations from fans to get access to the newest premium content. Critter8 took exception to this. He had made Ship Comrade -- a fan site whose best early features included tracking Rank Battle progress and had one of (if not THE) first Captain Skill calculator. He took his fandom seriously and wanted a professional relationship with Wargaming to facilitate content production. Florida's upgrade choices are pretty dull. Deposit $200, Get $250. Based on our research, heres the ranking of states where average annual car insurance rates are the most expensive: Florida: $2,560. Her 31mm rear deck will help shatter small-caliber HE shells too, as will her 50mm armoured secondaries. If for any particular reason I needa fast American battleship, I have Georgia.. They need radar to have some limitation - be it not going through rocks or only working for the ship using it (and only mini map spots for the team). Wargaming knows it too. Her stern is made up of composite layers of armour beneath the 26mm outer shell in a similar vein to Giulio Cesare's bow. As of December 2020, Floridas (preliminary) unemployment rate was at 6.1% while Californias was 9%. Here's a better view of how deep California's belt extends. Florida had a cumulative rate as much as 84% higher than Californias last fall. On the other hand, Instead, she has Gun Fire Control Modification 1 which increases her main battery gun range. California's speed is a severe handicap, but you knew that coming in. Florida basketball got back on the winning track on Tuesday night with a 77-67 win over the Georgia Bulldogs on the road in the penultimate regular-season game for the Gators. What to do? Arizona's weapons are amazing at tier VI. Great work . as usual. Certainly can defend herself against carriers with her decent AA. Before patch 0.8.0, the levels of AA firepower California puts out would have been formidable and worth celebrating. The Florida at tier VII is based on the North Carolina-class of battleships as it was initially designed. After World War I, to stop the naval arms race that was raging between the different nations, multiple treaties were signed, including the Washington Naval Treaty of 1922 and the Second London Naval Treaty of 1936. I'm just a slightly above average player too. As easy as border-humping battleships can be, Florida asks a bit more of players in order to get her to perform. 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